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Posted 18 May 2007 - 11:31 PM

hi,
I have been looking for a solution to this problem since the day after I got my 8800 gtx. I found out that someone in my old css clan also had an under-preforming 8800 gtx. I had heard that he had fixed it when I talked to him I very soon realised he had not. Benchmarks are more than double current fps benchmarks we are getting. the problem seems to be more on the 8800 gtx cards.. If you have a 8800gtx or any 8800 card that is under-preforming post here...

Now the problem itself:
The problem might be the drivers as a lot of people are hopeing. Now that the drivers have been updated and the number of under-preforming cards is going down we start to see that Vista seems to be the Leading trouble maker for the 8800 card..

Vista ?
Some of you may think no way I thought the 8800 was designed for vista and dirrect x 10... It now seems that nvidia might have to seriously work on the next drivers for the cards to fix this problem. As more than half of the under-preformance problems are on Vista operating systems.

The first problem with the 8800 cards... When the card first came out I decided to wait... 1.I knew the price would go down soon enough. 2.There was a powersupply issue with the card. The minimum powersupply unit that can power a 8800 is a 450 w power supply.(according to Nvidia) However very quickly a problem came up... people with 500 w powersupply where reporting under-preformance from their cards. Word went round that powering the 8800 would take a powersupply of 600w preferably a 700w. At this point I thought i would be Ok as I have a 650w powersupply unit. I went on holiday and when I came back the number of under-preforming cards had gone right down and I still couldn't find out if the problem had been solved or what.

My Computer and Problems ....
Ok, this may not be imformative to any of you at all and I may be compltly wrong because i happen to know that my old card(ati x1550 connect 3d) was also under-preforming when I first got it. I treid to run cs1.6 I got a fps average of 24 ... After a while of tweeking and pointless restarts and other procedures I mangaged to fix the problem and my fps went right up to the max that is set at 100 as defult. The only problem is that I can not remember how I fixed it.... When and if I remember I will be sure to post here so check from time to time on this post.

Any solutions would be greatly apreciated ...
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My computer:
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Vista 64 bit home basic
duel core proccessor 1.86 1.86
Nvidia 8800gtx 768 mb ddr3
3 Gb ram ddr 2 (4 but 1 is unrecognised another problem i am trying to fix if you have a solution or sugjestion it is welcome)
650w Powersupply
250gb SATAII Hard Drive
AS Rock Motherboard esata2 series

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 06:02 AM

I see your main problem. Your CPU is bottlenecking your card.
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Posted 19 May 2007 - 09:43 AM

View PostSpart, on May 19 2007, 02:02 PM, said:

I see your main problem. Your CPU is bottlenecking your card.


The GHZ count seems simillar to the Core 2 Duo E6300, which is FAR from a bad CPU for gamers.

To OP: Power stability? I've seen quite some scams on power supplies supplying "maximum" 650W but actual 500 or even 450 watts stable.
And check the additional power connectors too.


If everything fails, sell it and just get an ATi HD2600 XT card in the future. :D
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Posted 19 May 2007 - 10:26 AM

View PostTheNGTV, on May 19 2007, 10:43 AM, said:

To OP: Power stability? I've seen quite some scams on power supplies supplying "maximum" 650W but actual 500 or even 450 watts stable.
And check the additional power connectors too.

How do I check the additional power connectors ?(If you mean check they are pluged in right I already have ...)
And how would I know if the Power stability is the problem...

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 08:41 PM

1.86 is really low. Especially for a Conroe. It needs to be overclocked if it is a Conroe. Don't get a cheap CPU and a high end GPU unless you plan to overclock like a madman.


What is the make/model of your PSU?
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Posted 19 May 2007 - 09:36 PM

View PostSpart, on May 19 2007, 09:41 PM, said:

What is the make/model of your PSU?


Coolermaster eXtreme Power 650W PSU - ATX 12V V2.01 120mm Fan 20+4pin
btw : I am planning on overclocking my cpu.. It's desgined for overclocking :) (well slightly)

Conroe?

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 01:49 AM

Well that PSU has some pretty good reviews.


And Conroe = Core2Duo codename.
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 10:46 AM

I was sort of planning on Overclocking to 2.2 on each core but I just want to get all my problems fixed first ...
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Posted 21 May 2007 - 03:23 AM

I put my money on the simple fact that its the 64-bit edition. Maybe conflicting with that whole deal. :huh:
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Posted 21 May 2007 - 03:54 AM

View Postvoodoo, on May 20 2007, 11:23 PM, said:

I put my money on the simple fact that its the 64-bit edition. Maybe conflicting with that whole deal. :huh:



For me 64bit ran so much better than 32bit. I had so many driver problems with 32bit. Creative was the worst. When I tried to install my sound driver it told me to insert disk one. WTF?! I tried it from several mirror sites and got the same thing. Finally I got my Audigy 2 zs to get recognized using vita update drivers but my speakers would start popping and hissing maybe 5 minutes after the install. I tried rebooting several times and res installed the drivers multiple times to no avail.

I only had one with 64bit and it was easily resolved. I'm sticking with 64.
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 05:10 PM

View PostSpart, on May 21 2007, 04:54 AM, said:

I only had one with 64bit and it was easily resolved. I'm sticking with 64.


Do you have an 8800 GTX ?
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