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#141 User is offline   jaaroo79 Icon

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 05:08 PM

View PostNick Marques, on Aug 22 2007, 03:46 AM, said:

What's the version of the driver say in Device Manager? Dell only repackages Intel drivers to my knowledge... Does Intel have a new version out?


Here's the driver version mates: 11.1.1.22, driver date: 08/08/2007, provider: Intel

Good luck. I'm gonna test it thouroughly, throwing Skype on it, watching youtube, runnig 3 downloads of HD movies, ICQ and other apps, putting to sleep, hibernate, waking it up and so and so etc.. :realmad:

I'll let you know if it dies... and when.
P.S.> So far so good
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 08:25 PM

View Postjaaroo79, on Aug 22 2007, 01:08 PM, said:

View PostNick Marques, on Aug 22 2007, 03:46 AM, said:

What's the version of the driver say in Device Manager? Dell only repackages Intel drivers to my knowledge... Does Intel have a new version out?


Here's the driver version mates: 11.1.1.22, driver date: 08/08/2007, provider: Intel

Good luck. I'm gonna test it thouroughly, throwing Skype on it, watching youtube, runnig 3 downloads of HD movies, ICQ and other apps, putting to sleep, hibernate, waking it up and so and so etc.. :realmad:

I'll let you know if it dies... and when.
P.S.> So far so good


Interesting, the Intel Downloads page says that 11.1.1.11 is the latest driver for Vista, for the 3945ABG.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 08:27 PM

View PostNick Marques, on Aug 22 2007, 05:25 PM, said:

View Postjaaroo79, on Aug 22 2007, 01:08 PM, said:

View PostNick Marques, on Aug 22 2007, 03:46 AM, said:

What's the version of the driver say in Device Manager? Dell only repackages Intel drivers to my knowledge... Does Intel have a new version out?


Here's the driver version mates: 11.1.1.22, driver date: 08/08/2007, provider: Intel

Good luck. I'm gonna test it thouroughly, throwing Skype on it, watching youtube, runnig 3 downloads of HD movies, ICQ and other apps, putting to sleep, hibernate, waking it up and so and so etc.. :realmad:

I'll let you know if it dies... and when.
P.S.> So far so good


Interesting, the Intel Downloads page says that 11.1.1.11 is the latest driver for Vista, for the 3945ABG.


For me, the 11.1.1.22 driver is 100% working since yesterday.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 08:44 PM

View PostFFW, on Aug 23 2007, 04:27 PM, said:

View PostNick Marques, on Aug 22 2007, 05:25 PM, said:

View Postjaaroo79, on Aug 22 2007, 01:08 PM, said:

View PostNick Marques, on Aug 22 2007, 03:46 AM, said:

What's the version of the driver say in Device Manager? Dell only repackages Intel drivers to my knowledge... Does Intel have a new version out?


Here's the driver version mates: 11.1.1.22, driver date: 08/08/2007, provider: Intel

Good luck. I'm gonna test it thouroughly, throwing Skype on it, watching youtube, runnig 3 downloads of HD movies, ICQ and other apps, putting to sleep, hibernate, waking it up and so and so etc.. :realmad:

I'll let you know if it dies... and when.
P.S.> So far so good


Interesting, the Intel Downloads page says that 11.1.1.11 is the latest driver for Vista, for the 3945ABG.


For me, the 11.1.1.22 driver is 100% working since yesterday.


I'm curious to read the Changlog for that version since 11.1.1.22. I also wish Intel would release PROset for Vista. I know there is that small utility, but its kind of useless.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 09:32 PM

Hey all,
just wanna say there seems to be nothing stopping this from working or shutting the radio down. I want to encourage everybody to get that v.22 driver mentioned above ASAP instead of other previous patches. This works unlike anything else before (and hell I tried almost everything posted in this forum ever since this topic began), now 11.1.1.22 is perfectly stable.
I'm tellin' ya they must have found THE BIG BUG :dribble:
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 09:47 PM

View Postjaaroo79, on Aug 23 2007, 05:32 PM, said:

Hey all,
just wanna say there seems to be nothing stopping this from working or shutting the radio down. I want to encourage everybody to get that v.22 driver mentioned above ASAP instead of other previous patches. This works unlike anything else before (and hell I tried almost everything posted in this forum ever since this topic began), now 11.1.1.22 is perfectly stable.
I'm tellin' ya they must have found THE BIG BUG :dribble:


I hate to be the one to rain on the parade but....

Still having wireless problems. After upgrading to the v.22 driver the radio finally stays on without shutting itself off, however after about 24-48 hours I lose my internet connection. Somehow I can ping some sites (yahoo, google) but not others (microsoft). I cannot access any web pages. After rebooting, everything works fine as before. I'm not so sure it's just a driver problem anymore. Anyone have any insight??? :blink:

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Intel PRO 3945ABG Wireless Card (driver version 11.1.1.22)
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 11:53 PM

View PostDre, on Aug 27 2007, 10:47 PM, said:

View Postjaaroo79, on Aug 23 2007, 05:32 PM, said:

Hey all,
just wanna say there seems to be nothing stopping this from working or shutting the radio down. I want to encourage everybody to get that v.22 driver mentioned above ASAP instead of other previous patches. This works unlike anything else before (and hell I tried almost everything posted in this forum ever since this topic began), now 11.1.1.22 is perfectly stable.
I'm tellin' ya they must have found THE BIG BUG :dribble:


I hate to be the one to rain on the parade but....

Still having wireless problems. After upgrading to the v.22 driver the radio finally stays on without shutting itself off, however after about 24-48 hours I lose my internet connection. Somehow I can ping some sites (yahoo, google) but not others (microsoft). I cannot access any web pages. After rebooting, everything works fine as before. I'm not so sure it's just a driver problem anymore. Anyone have any insight??? :blink:

Sony VAIO Laptop
Vista Business Edition
2GB RAM
Intel Centrino Duo Core 2
Intel PRO 3945ABG Wireless Card (driver version 11.1.1.22)


Yeah, your laptop specs are impressive, (mine's better though :P ), but give us more details about your software, i suspect it'll be down to a firewall or something to do with security settings. If you can ping at least one site outside as you mentioned, then you're connected and the driver's doing its job properly.

What I experienced though was a temporary connection loss when I left Skype running too long and as I noticed something's wrong I checked IE just to see that new pages couldn't load, saying.. unavailable. Then I just quit Skype and within 10 seconds everything was up and running again. ;)
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 03:36 PM

Hello all, I check out the driver.. It can be downloaded from Dell at ftp://ftp.us.dell.co...ork/R164259.EXE . I think it should work for non-Dell systems as well. Intel doesn't seem to have this posted yet. Weird.

Here's the Release Highlights:
* Addresses 3945ABG radio disable seen with some systems running with Bluetooth modules
* Addresses 3945ABG radio disable seen in some 802.11a environments after Standby or Hibernate
* Addresses installer upgrade behavior where Windows Vista Preferred Networks would be lost
* Addresses installer interaction with InstallShield Update Manager causing an unwanted prompt during installation

Well, there it is.. I hope.
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 04:44 PM

No mate,
it's definitely NOT due to a bluetooth interaction as some people may say. I haven't got any bluetooth device connected or anywhere nearby me, neither ever had before since having Vista running Dell 9400 and yet... I was experiencing same trouble like everyone else.
-How's that?

Anyway, whatever it was this driver seem to have solved it. FINALLY!
(after X days... still workin') :)

P.S.>Download link had been posted in post #138 already:
If you are experiencing issues with your Intel 3945 a/g wireless network adapter in the Vista operating system, please update to the latest driver which was just posted recently, 8/15/07.

ftp://ftp.dell.com/network/R164259.EXE

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 08:46 PM

View Postjaaroo79, on Aug 27 2007, 07:53 PM, said:

View PostDre, on Aug 27 2007, 10:47 PM, said:

View Postjaaroo79, on Aug 23 2007, 05:32 PM, said:

Hey all,
just wanna say there seems to be nothing stopping this from working or shutting the radio down. I want to encourage everybody to get that v.22 driver mentioned above ASAP instead of other previous patches. This works unlike anything else before (and hell I tried almost everything posted in this forum ever since this topic began), now 11.1.1.22 is perfectly stable.
I'm tellin' ya they must have found THE BIG BUG :dribble:


I hate to be the one to rain on the parade but....

Still having wireless problems. After upgrading to the v.22 driver the radio finally stays on without shutting itself off, however after about 24-48 hours I lose my internet connection. Somehow I can ping some sites (yahoo, google) but not others (microsoft). I cannot access any web pages. After rebooting, everything works fine as before. I'm not so sure it's just a driver problem anymore. Anyone have any insight??? :blink:

Sony VAIO Laptop
Vista Business Edition
2GB RAM
Intel Centrino Duo Core 2
Intel PRO 3945ABG Wireless Card (driver version 11.1.1.22)


Yeah, your laptop specs are impressive, (mine's better though :P ), but give us more details about your software, i suspect it'll be down to a firewall or something to do with security settings. If you can ping at least one site outside as you mentioned, then you're connected and the driver's doing its job properly.

What I experienced though was a temporary connection loss when I left Skype running too long and as I noticed something's wrong I checked IE just to see that new pages couldn't load, saying.. unavailable. Then I just quit Skype and within 10 seconds everything was up and running again. ;)


Hmmm... well I'm not running anything too crazy. I typically just have Firefox, Outlook, and a couple IM clients (YIM, Google Chat) running. Here are the specifics though.

Norton Internet Security 2007
MS Outlook 2003
Yahoo IM
Google Chat
uTorrent (occasionally)
MS Bluetooth Stack

That's about it. It happens when I've used uTorrent and also when I haven't. I have the latest WiFi driver and that solved the radio switching off problem, but not the dropped connection problem. As you say it could be a firewall issue, but why would it only occur after 24 hours, and why can I only ping Yahoo and Google? Note that I cannot reach their web pages, but I can ping them. I'm running pretty much the same software configuration on an XP machine on the same network and I've never had this problem.
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 11:12 PM

View PostDre, on Aug 28 2007, 09:46 PM, said:

Hmmm... well I'm not running anything too crazy. I typically just have Firefox, Outlook, and a couple IM clients (YIM, Google Chat) running. Here are the specifics though.

Norton Internet Security 2007
MS Outlook 2003
Yahoo IM
Google Chat
uTorrent (occasionally)
MS Bluetooth Stack

That's about it. It happens when I've used uTorrent and also when I haven't. I have the latest WiFi driver and that solved the radio switching off problem, but not the dropped connection problem. As you say it could be a firewall issue, but why would it only occur after 24 hours, and why can I only ping Yahoo and Google? Note that I cannot reach their web pages, but I can ping them. I'm running pretty much the same software configuration on an XP machine on the same network and I've never had this problem.



I see, it's a bit strange. Here's a little advice..
All I can say is that I would try to COMPLETELY AVOID USING ALWAYS JUST ONE of these PROGRAMS for a day or two to find out which one is causing it, i.e. as you mentioned it happened regardless of using uTorrent, so I'd say uTorrent is NOT the troubled one. Try another and don't forget to disable it on startup if it starts up when Windows restarts.
My personal suggestion is the IM client. Or perhaps the chat. Say good bye to everybody and try disable these apps. (maybe even both) for a couple days (remember disable their startup features -should be able to do within those programs somewhere in settings uncheck "Start with Windows" or something similar. If not, run msconfig.exe, choose start-up card and uncheck related apps. -but you'd better know what you're doing). Then restart, make sure it didn't load up and within next 24-48hrs try only hibernate and wake-up instead of shutting down your pc.
Good luck :)

If you can't be bothered to carry out so much testing or being short of time, I'd be tempted to take a risk and disable NIS 7.0, because nothing is watching over your internet traffic as much as this app., taken in consideration it can suddenly block inbound or outbound traffic if it's suspicious of something. Should you decide to disable it, you'd better have some antivirus freebie by hand to run it while NIS is disabled. Also enable Vista's firewall then. I've had lots of problems with Norton Security programs, so I use different ones now.

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 11:50 PM

View Postjaaroo79, on Aug 28 2007, 07:12 PM, said:

View PostDre, on Aug 28 2007, 09:46 PM, said:

Hmmm... well I'm not running anything too crazy. I typically just have Firefox, Outlook, and a couple IM clients (YIM, Google Chat) running. Here are the specifics though.

Norton Internet Security 2007
MS Outlook 2003
Yahoo IM
Google Chat
uTorrent (occasionally)
MS Bluetooth Stack

That's about it. It happens when I've used uTorrent and also when I haven't. I have the latest WiFi driver and that solved the radio switching off problem, but not the dropped connection problem. As you say it could be a firewall issue, but why would it only occur after 24 hours, and why can I only ping Yahoo and Google? Note that I cannot reach their web pages, but I can ping them. I'm running pretty much the same software configuration on an XP machine on the same network and I've never had this problem.



I see, it's a bit strange. Here's a little advice..
All I can say is that I would try to COMPLETELY AVOID USING ALWAYS JUST ONE of these PROGRAMS for a day or two to find out which one is causing it, i.e. as you mentioned it happened regardless of using uTorrent, so I'd say uTorrent is NOT the troubled one. Try another and don't forget to disable it on startup if it starts up when Windows restarts.
My personal suggestion is the IM client. Or perhaps the chat. Say good bye to everybody and try disable these apps. (maybe even both) for a couple days (remember disable their startup features -should be able to do within those programs somewhere in settings uncheck "Start with Windows" or something similar. If not, run msconfig.exe, choose start-up card and uncheck related apps. -but you'd better know what you're doing). Then restart, make sure it didn't load up and within next 24-48hrs try only hibernate and wake-up instead of shutting down your pc.
Good luck :)

If you can't be bothered to carry out so much testing or being short of time, I'd be tempted to take a risk and disable NIS 7.0, because nothing is watching over your internet traffic as much as this app., taken in consideration it can suddenly block inbound or outbound traffic if it's suspicious of something. Should you decide to disable it, you'd better have some antivirus freebie by hand to run it while NIS is disabled. Also enable Vista's firewall then. I've had lots of problems with Norton Security programs, so I use different ones now.


Thanks, I'll give that a shot. I'm hesitant to disable Norton because I don't want to leave my computer wide open, but I think if there's anything blocking traffic, Norton is probably it (I've had issues with it before also, but it's the best comprehensive suite I've found for the money). I'll let you know how it works out.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 12:48 AM

Heh...

I never ever run firewalls, Norton, Ad-Aware, Windows Defender or anything... I never get viruses, adware, spyware, or hijacks. My PC is always wide open.. I think its a waste of money and sys resources.. Pehaps it's better to just know what to click and not to click.. or what sites not to go to?

Sorry, it's off topic, but that's my position on those sorts of things.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 08:11 PM

View PostNick Marques, on Aug 28 2007, 08:48 PM, said:

Heh...

I never ever run firewalls, Norton, Ad-Aware, Windows Defender or anything... I never get viruses, adware, spyware, or hijacks. My PC is always wide open.. I think its a waste of money and sys resources.. Pehaps it's better to just know what to click and not to click.. or what sites not to go to?

Sorry, it's off topic, but that's my position on those sorts of things.


Good luck with that!
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 09:58 PM

View PostDre, on Aug 29 2007, 09:11 PM, said:

View PostNick Marques, on Aug 28 2007, 08:48 PM, said:

Heh...

I never ever run firewalls, Norton, Ad-Aware, Windows Defender or anything... I never get viruses, adware, spyware, or hijacks. My PC is always wide open.. I think its a waste of money and sys resources.. Pehaps it's better to just know what to click and not to click.. or what sites not to go to?

Sorry, it's off topic, but that's my position on those sorts of things.


Good luck with that!


I must agree with Nick about dangerous sites like porn, cracks, key generators and stuff like that usually floods viewers with spyware and viruses. -definitely got a clear point there, which is absolutely right, however, even without wasting time browsing that crap I wouldn't go unsecured when doing an online banking or making a purchase via internet. I used KAspersky or McAfee. Kasper is top of a range, the best and most secured to my knowledge and you get hell of a discount when buying 2 or more licenses, which isn't that hard considering friends around you.

This has got well off the topic I know. I'll delete this reply after few days, I understand it should be in different topic.
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Posted 01 September 2007 - 07:37 PM

View PostDre, on Aug 27 2007, 04:47 PM, said:

View Postjaaroo79, on Aug 23 2007, 05:32 PM, said:

Hey all,
just wanna say there seems to be nothing stopping this from working or shutting the radio down. I want to encourage everybody to get that v.22 driver mentioned above ASAP instead of other previous patches. This works unlike anything else before (and hell I tried almost everything posted in this forum ever since this topic began), now 11.1.1.22 is perfectly stable.
I'm tellin' ya they must have found THE BIG BUG :dribble:


I hate to be the one to rain on the parade but....

Still having wireless problems. After upgrading to the v.22 driver the radio finally stays on without shutting itself off, however after about 24-48 hours I lose my internet connection. Somehow I can ping some sites (yahoo, google) but not others (microsoft). I cannot access any web pages. After rebooting, everything works fine as before. I'm not so sure it's just a driver problem anymore. Anyone have any insight??? :blink:

Sony VAIO Laptop
Vista Business Edition
2GB RAM
Intel Centrino Duo Core 2
Intel PRO 3945ABG Wireless Card (driver version 11.1.1.22)


I would look to your router. I had a Linksys WRT54G with the DD-WRT firmware on it, and it was giving me a bunch of problems, but I knew it wasn't just my laptop because it was occuring on my desktop as well as another computer. A simple restart of the router fixed the problem for a week until the router completely failed to turn on again.
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Posted 01 September 2007 - 11:36 PM

View PostRyanN, on Sep 1 2007, 08:37 PM, said:

I would look to your router. I had a Linksys WRT54G with the DD-WRT firmware on it, and it was giving me a bunch of problems, but I knew it wasn't just my laptop because it was occuring on my desktop as well as another computer. A simple restart of the router fixed the problem for a week until the router completely failed to turn on again.


Yes, that's very true :realmad: This happened to me too, I use NETGEAR DG834PN and because router was as far as I could get I decided to restart it, which made internet working again. Also I had to return one as it failed after about 8 days of operation. :wacko:
But this 2nd one worked fine for over 3 months and when desparate I restarted it about 3-4 times so far.
BTW I thought restarting router via PC command is safer than unplugging from mains :unsure:
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 10:23 PM

View Postjaaroo79, on Sep 1 2007, 07:36 PM, said:

View PostRyanN, on Sep 1 2007, 08:37 PM, said:

I would look to your router. I had a Linksys WRT54G with the DD-WRT firmware on it, and it was giving me a bunch of problems, but I knew it wasn't just my laptop because it was occuring on my desktop as well as another computer. A simple restart of the router fixed the problem for a week until the router completely failed to turn on again.


Yes, that's very true :realmad: This happened to me too, I use NETGEAR DG834PN and because router was as far as I could get I decided to restart it, which made internet working again. Also I had to return one as it failed after about 8 days of operation. :wacko:
But this 2nd one worked fine for over 3 months and when desparate I restarted it about 3-4 times so far.
BTW I thought restarting router via PC command is safer than unplugging from mains :unsure:


I'm using a NETGEAR WGR614 router... however I have another laptop running Win XP on the same network and it never has any connection problems. I've tried disabling just about every internet program to isolate the problem with no luck. It's almost like clockwork now, my computer loses the connection about every 24 hours and has to be restarted. I've looked at the event logs and I can't find anything there, except a system error stating that the Master Browser service has failed. Tried restarting the browser service with no luck. Resetting the adapter doesn't help either. This is getting pretty frustrating. :realmad:
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Posted 05 September 2007 - 10:52 PM

View Postjaaroo79, on Aug 28 2007, 06:44 PM, said:

Anyway, whatever it was this driver seem to have solved it. FINALLY!
(after X days... still workin') :)

Man, you've just made me so happy!!! :jump: This problem with wifi connection dropping randomly was about to drive me crazy. Actually, I had already given up... until I found this wonderful post! Has anyone else confirmed that this new Intel driver is definitely fixing the issue? I'd rather not mess around more with my (already pretty) messed up system if this is not the REAL solution. Thank you all for this excellent post!
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Posted 06 September 2007 - 05:23 PM

View Postj0sefK, on Sep 5 2007, 11:52 PM, said:

View Postjaaroo79, on Aug 28 2007, 06:44 PM, said:

Anyway, whatever it was this driver seem to have solved it. FINALLY!
(after X days... still workin') :)

Man, you've just made me so happy!!! :jump: This problem with wifi connection dropping randomly was about to drive me crazy. Actually, I had already given up... until I found this wonderful post! Has anyone else confirmed that this new Intel driver is definitely fixing the issue? I'd rather not mess around more with my (already pretty) messed up system if this is not the REAL solution. Thank you all for this excellent post!


Don't waste your time suffering previous miseries and waiting any longer and GO AHEAD -update it! You won't mess anything and you can always roll back.
Or have you not had enough of tricky connection yet? :D
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